About 2 million Americans get a raise Thursday as the federal minimum wage rises 70 cents. The bad news: Higher gas and food prices are swallowing it up, and some small businesses will pass the cost of the wage hike to consumers.
About 2 million Americans get a raise Thursday as the federal minimum wage rises 70 cents. The bad news: Higher gas and food prices are swallowing it up, and some small businesses will pass the cost of the wage hike to consumers.
Should the raise be bigger?
Definitely. At least $ No one can live on $
ya think??
Of course it should be more there is no one that should be expected to truly make a living on 6.55 an hour. I'd like to see the bureaucrats that set minimum wage try to live on it for just one year. When they can vote themselves 50K year raises, it doesn't even graze their thoughts the trials someone on minimum wage endure. These are the American people they are sworn to serve.
I agree with boosterprez. Minimum wage jobs require minimum labor. I worked for McDonald's for almost five years. I started when I was 16, and worked up into management. My last paycheck earned me only $8/hr., as a shift manager. One cannot live on that pay at twenty years old, so I "moved" up and started working at a Walmart Distribution Center making $12.75 the first day, with a $0.50 raise every six months up to 2 1/2 years. I now plan on going into management there and the pay will continue to rise.
Remember, when minimum wage increases, so does the state and federal taxes that each employer pays. If you don't like making minimum wage, do something about it and EARN a better job, I did.
Both 'ranger83' and 'boosterprez' must be under the age of 35 respectfully. Adults who have lost their jobs, for whatever reason, have to start all over. Working all your life and starting at McDonalds or wherever- everyone has done. But after becoming an ADULT and having to support a family you may find 'boys' that you cannot cut it at min. wage. After you have become an ADULT and have worked so hard to get where you are, you may find yourself without a job one day (there is no such thing as comp. loyalty) and then what, start over time and guess what at min. wage. You will have a mortgage, car payment, other loans bills and oh don't forget trying to eat! You will also find that there is no help out there for people in the gray area- hmmm gray area, that is where the Gov. and state agencies say you make to much money and do not consider you mortgage and loans a debt, thus you do not qualify for ANY help....good luck with 7 bucks an hour. So luck has alot to do with it 'kids', oh and you had better hope you do not become disabled like me and your spouse has to work 2 jobs and you still lose your house!
Yes it should and I also think the US government should do more to shoulder the costs of the wage increase, instead of shouldering the responsibility entirely on the employers ( IE tax break incentives to qualifying businesses) I am all for humanitarian efforts in foreign countries, but what about the people in our own communities who are forced out of their homes and businesses because of the state of our economy? Send the help where it's needed; OUR OWN BACKYARD! It's a really sad sign of the times when the "American Dream" is no longer being independent and prosperous; it's instead reduced to selling off everything that will fetch a price, living in their car if they can afford one and getting on state assistance to get by.
It's been years since they've raised the minimum wage rate, it's unfortunate that it's been so long, they are so far behind, The rate should have changed with the cost of living, but it hasn't, it's certainly going to take much more then the 7.25 for a person to survive....The lowest pay rate I had while living on my own and going to school was 10$per hour, and I still had to get help at times from family......I don't know how anyone could live like that.
Jessica, less than 1 percent of the federal budget goes to aid for other countries; we are very close to bottom in rankings for that in the industrial countries. And why should the U.S. government have to shoulder the burden (which we would be doing through our taxes)? It would be an ideal world if employers would willingly pay a living wage, but the government only steps in minimally to try to insure that people at least can eat one meal a day and have a roof over their heads.
I see unions aren't expected to look out for the workers, but corporations are allowed to look out for the top men. why does everyone judge the workign poor, but not judge the working rich?
I think it should be raised to at least $9.50-$10.00 an hour . Why i feel this way is because you go buy groceries and you pay double for the same thing that 6 month ago was half the amount and gas price are bring in more trouble for our lives kids siphoning gas anyway they can . driving off at gas station has doubled America is definitely heading for big trouble and more death with people fighting for thing they need and can't afford.
OF COURSE IT SHOULD BE MORE, but who are we kidding here, SOME people WILL NEVER make enough money to SURVIVE on (two, three, or even four jobs with the GOVERNMENT and other 'agencies' gobbling up the majority of it), and unfortunately that's just a fact of life. You wonder why there are SO MANY people 'rooming' together (mainly families), or some people HAVING to WORK while in their seventies or even eighties (how heart breaking is that, especially for grandparents having to raise, or even help raise their grandchildren), they don't (or can't) live off the money they've 'put away' because we are now in a RECESSION and almost EVERYTHING is going through the roof. So, do I believe that the minimum wage should be higher, you bet your sweet life I do, but I also realize that employers will have to eliminate other services as well 'because of the hike', and we'll ALL end up paying through the nose anyhow, so in the long run there are actually 'NO' winners here. God help us all.
Yes, go ahead and raise minumum wage to $10.00 an hour and see how much inflation increases and how many jobs disappear. Everyone wants the government to legislate our problems away. I worked for minimum wage on and off until I was 25 and finally found a job that afforded better financial opportunities. If you don't like what you are making start looking for another job you'll find one if you keep trying and stop hoping for the government or someone else to make it better.
The raise in minimum wage won't help the people getting it and it won't help anyone else because companies paying it will have to raise their prices to recoup what they will lose on the increase. Wages are the single biggest expense for most companies and most use minimum wage for entry level positions and if you raise minumum wage they will either have to raise prices or go out of business. Some small businessmen who don't have pricing power will just go out of business, like most farmers and livestock owners who are already being squeezed by fuel costs.
If you want a raise pay attention to what your job demands and do your job to the best of your ability. If you are working hard and do a good job for your employer and they don't recognize you look for another job.
Minimum wage is such a socialist idea, let the market compete for labor, and wages will go up on their own.
" think it should be raised to at least $9.50-$10.00 an hour . Why i feel this way is because you go buy groceries and you pay double for the same thing that 6 month ago was half the amount "
Why this doesn't work is because, as you said, people are paying double now (although we're not actually, food prices throughout other parts of the world have increased while the US has seen a marginal decrease), which means that if you take from those businesses charging double now, then costs increase even more, meaning that we'd be paying even more than double, hurting those who don't receive any assistance (the strong majority), putting MORE in poverty and making the costs even more difficult to cover. We're not seeing double yet, it would take those increased costs to businesses being approved that would CAUSE the costs to double.
you do realize that if the minimum wage went up as high as some of you are calling for, the price of EVERYTHING would skyrocket to cover the difference, pretty much negating the raise. Everyone above that level would stay at the same pay so they would basicly be taking a pay cut due to the rising costs. Say I was someone making $11.00 an hour and the minimum wage is hiked to $10.00 an hour. Now I would get no raise and only be making $1.00 more than some high school kids, the cost of everything goes up and I can no longer afford to feed my family.
Absolutely -- everyone needs a job and some people can only manage a "starter" job no matter how much they try. But unless you're a teen and living at home with Mom & Dad paying for everything, you can't afford to live on minimum wage, even for the first year until you get a raise or a promotion..
All U.S. senators and representatives should try living on minimum wage for 6 months - pay rent, utilities, buy food and get back and forth to your job. Do laundry, buy soap and shampoo and razor blades and get haircuts -- it should be a minimum requirement before serving in Congress. Maybe we could make it mandatory, like a draft, for everyone, so all Americans could understand a little better what poverty feels like.
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It is sad to see that some "Adults" only make minimum wage but again there is a reason behind it all. On one hand we do not like the current prices of items, on the other hand pay me more- Well neither hand is gonna get what it wants. Why because if we keep prices were they are there is nothing to give to the other hand. If the other hand gets a raise costs will go up. Period.
As far as U.S. Senators and our reps in congress they did NOT make this mess WE THE PEOPLE made this mess.
The only way to solve this issue, we have to look within ourselves. YES, I KNOW ...BUT I DIDN'T ...
Actually yes you did! We as a whole did...we bit off more than we can chew. Don't like the price of Haircuts go buy clippers do it yourself. If you have cable get rid of it, internet good bye. Start living within your means.
If you don't like your situation do not wait for someone else to come along and fix it. Move yourself!
Minimum wage should not go up. When minimum wage increases, prices increase. This inflation devalues the dollar, which in turn leads the person who is making minimum wage right back to where they started... unable to afford anything, since the price just went up on everything.
There's no such thing as free money. It comes from somewhere! People who advocate larger minimum wages don't seem to understand that.
You better explain your theory to Wall $treet, because they've been creating billions in profit for themselves while producing absolutely nothing! LOL
You do realize that for your theory to work, no one should ever get a raise?
Yes, we all get raises. You ever wonder why a hamburger that cost 39 cents 20 years ago costs $1.19 now? Because of inflation. We all have more money, which means it's worth less. We won't go into your stock market example because that's irrelevant.
Anyways, someday that hamburger will cost $20, and minimum wage will be $100 an hour. But the people making it still won't be making enough to survive.
You follow?
Why? So companies can raise their prices even higher and/or let go of employees they can't afford to pay, thereby raising unemployment levels????
The government is interfering in the market when it tries to fiddle with wages...markets should dictate wages, not bureaucracy. A burger flipper or a worker at an auto car wash, for example, don't really deserve to make $7+ dollars an hour. These kinds of jobs are meant for teens with very few expenses...they are not meant for heads of household! So we shouldn't be trying to make ends meet with the minimum wage...it WILL get eaten up anyway, when you factor in the rising costs associated with the increase, which businesses must pass along to make a profit.
If you don't want to end up with a minimum wage job, do what you must educationally to get where you want to be! It's not rocket science!
I'm glad you have been lucky not to have to work a minimum wage job. Unfortunately, there are a lot of adults in this country who are not so lucky. Either we make up the cost in higher prices on some items, or we are going to have to make it up with our tax dollars. We end up funding these underpaid workers one way or another. Something has got to give, and it has been way too long since we have given the minimum wage a boost. Wages any more are a much smaller piece of the cost pie for many businesses anyway. Prices for fuel, etc have way outpaced any growth in wages. It's time we did something about those and not complain so much about the wages.
Renee, it wasn't "luck" that kept me out of minimum wage jobs...it was hard work and perserverance...sounds cliche, but is nevertheless true!
It's a myth that most people with money were lucky....those with the big money took the biggest risks, either through investing or putting up capital to start a company (a company that provides jobs!), making a business plan and producing a product or service. Whatever they can eek out of this is well-deserved, not the luck of the draw.
Hey Renee,
I don't make minimum wage, like millions of middle class people. However, millions of us in middle class, who did go to college (and are still paying off our student loans), are struggling today with the cost of food and gasoline and housing. We are sick of everyone assuming we have an obligation to "fund" others. I work in healthcare. I see people in lower socioeconomic status with cell phones, designer clothes, acrylic nails, ect. This is not how people should be living with they in Lower SES. They need to learn to adjust. And if that means drinking powdered milk, so be it. It's what my mother raised me on. My mother cut every corner possible because of money problems. People in lower SES today don't seem to do that. Why? They believe those of us who are doing slightly better have an obligation to "fund" them while we work our butts off at harder jobs with more pressure, more responsibilities, more educational requirements, and more student loan debt. Meanwhile, we aren't living the high life ourselves. We are also struggling.
You are all missing the point here. The minimum wage and Social Security checks are both used for the same purpose. To toss a hand full of peanuts to the peasants now and then so they don't do to Washington and the rich what the poor people of Paris did to Marie Antoinette and her cronies.
To reply to Boosterperez:
This is not the first time minimum wage had been increased. Every time minimum wage is increase the prices go up. it might only be a few cents here and there but the consumer is always going to pay. The current increase was set quite some time ago. So, it is really not news, just everybody is paying attention to it because everything is going up.
And as far as your comment that a "burger flipper" does not deserve to make $7.00 an hour. Hopefully, you never have to do it for a first or second job.
Just my opinion
I have found that the most intelligent are the most stupid.
recheck you books, son.
If people can not afford to eat what makes you think they will do?
Education you say, I'm glad you have/or daddy had to get you there.
I was in war at age 17,where were you at that age?
The minimum wage should be $8 an hour adjusted yearly for cost of living increases. The neo-cons in office and mr.bush believe that there should be no minimum wage while oil stocks, CEO, and our government should get raises.
I can't believe some people are against this. It is a myth that when minimum wage goes up everything goes up. How can that be if we haven't increased it from 1997 to 2007.
wage increase crime decreases. If you are a small business and you can't afford to pay your workers than get out of business. Old people like the wage like it is because remembering hard times gets them erections. I tired off all the rich white people complaining. I never see a Hispanic or black person whine about minimum wage going up.
Another reason I won't vote for John "Keating Five Savings and Loan Scandal" McCain. If Obama gets too white on me, I will vote for McKinney the Green Party candidate.
I bet boosterprez voted for the idiot moron warmonger bush. he must drive a SUV or Benz and be a rich white person like the turds in westlake hills.
"I am proud to live in EAST AUSTIN"
"May be on foodstamps or social security"
"I love to rip off the man"
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"everyone in the hood"
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young thug, proud blood, making fuzz.
Not everyone has the ability to do more than that type of job--not everyone can start their own business or be in management. To say that those jobs are just for teens is naive.
"I can't believe some people are against this. It is a myth that when minimum wage goes up everything goes up. How can that be if we haven't increased it from 1997 to 2007."
I can't believe anyone who isn't ridiculously rich and doesn't care about the increased costs would be FOR this. It is NOT a myth that everything goes up as more is taken from businesss. History has proven this time and time again. The minimum wage is just one example, you're ignoring every single other cost that businesses must pay, which have increased radically since 1997 and every time cause an increase in consumer costs and a decrease in job growth. And by the way, the last increase before 1997 was decreased from its original intentions because of immediately escalating costs that seriously affected ALL who didn't receive any additional income to go with the cost increased, and that was during a decent economic time. Imagine it today when the middle class is already struggling. No, it most definitely is NOT a myth, it's seen with every change in business costs, from changes made just a few short months ago to the minimum wage changes of the past that ended up hurting the very people politicians claimed to be helping. Just looking at costs to businesses today and associated costs referred back to the consumer provide ample proof that you are not correct in your claim. I don't make enough to afford what you seem to support, but the economists from both the Republicans and Democrats have already said that they will not support Obama's economic policies, so he has no way of pushing them through Congress anyway even if voted in as President. I'm going to side with history itself and the experts on the economy on this one, instead of your claims that what most of us have seen personally is a myth.
Teens are being bypassed for those minimal jobs and the majority don't want to work for minimum wage. Immigrants are stepping up working 2 and 3 minimum wage jobs and happy to have the money. Minimum wage should be at the very least, during this time of economy burnout $10/hr.
If you are making min wage right now, you either are uneducated ( No HS degree or GED ), working a second job, or just out of jail. Please......write some other story that is at least interesting.
I am educated, have never served jail time or been charged with any crime (felony or misdemeanor), and only work one job. However, I do live in a small town in the south. I don't want to hear about how I should move to a city with higher wages, my parents need minimal care, and as an only child, I am the one to provide that care. I would not want to move anyway, I have lived in several large cities and I do not like the lifestyle.
Minimum wage is too low, but the smaller towns are hit the hardest. There is a very restricted job market here to begin with, and people with college degrees do not make much over minimum wage. Either way, I have worked with women who qualify for welfare. I am not on welfare, nor do I agree with it in general, but if a woman can make more money staying at home collecting welfare than working full time for minimum wage, the wages need to be raised.
You have no right to say a person has to be uneducated or a criminal to be making minimum wage... it really sounds like you need to do some research on the real world and get some experience working like the average citizen.
Rene, I think the man is generalizing about people on minimum wage, but his point is still valid: this will probably help people that don't really need their wages raised the most simply because they are probably still in HS. I'm not saying it won't help some people genuinely, and it's great that it will, but in the long-term it will clearly hurt most Americans when all the prices go up. How many people over the age of 18 that worked at a job for several years are still making minimum wage really? If they haven't gotten a raise in years it's gotta be for one of several reasons:
1. They don't work hard enough
2. They don't/can't demand a raise and there are literally no alternative jobs anywhere
I imagine that most people who will benefit from this will be those who fall in group 1 and teenagers, while everyone suffers with the raised cost of living.
As for those who legitimately have no options for finding another job:
Just go on welfare
The thing is that many Americans making minimum wage are entitled to at least some welfare benefits. They don't take up on them because it's embarrassing. But then again, I don't see the logic in that: just go on welfare if the cost of living is too much, that's why the programs are there in the first place. If you're in a situation that is simply too hard to bare economically, then do all that you can to get out of it. Then maybe you'll have some time to get a little more job training and take care of your parents.
"If you are making min wage right now, you either are uneducated ( No HS degree or GED ), working a second job, or just out of jail. Please......write some other story that is at least interesting."
Not that any of that even matters, the reasons for their position is unimportant, as a minimum wage hike done today would jack up costs for everyone, and those who DO make above the new minimum already would have to pay the increased costs and they would be affected the most.
"I am educated, have never served jail time or been charged with any crime (felony or misdemeanor), and only work one job. However, I do live in a small town in the south. I don't want to hear about how I should move to a city with higher wages, my parents need minimal care, and as an only child, I am the one to provide that care. I would not want to move anyway, I have lived in several large cities and I do not like the lifestyle."
Rene, you admit you have a choice, you choose to live in a small town. With small towns come small wages for the most part. Everyone is given a choice you made yours.
If it were really that uncomfortable you would do something about it.
is every state in USA going to get a minimum wage increase? or just some states?
Only states which are using the federal minimum wage as their set wage will see an increase...many states already exceed the federal guidelines...their minimum wages will not go up more unless dictated by their state.
Hope that makes sense!
Considering the excessive pay and stock options given to corporate CEO's and upper management, the minimum wage should be in the $ 20.00 range. With that said....what this means is 2 million people will get a raise as per the article, and everyone else will take a hit on their buying power. Companies will use the excuse of the minimum wage hike, to further increase their prices. This in turn will make our goods and services less competitive overseas. Another reason for companies to go offshore to exploit cheaper labor elsewhere. Face it, someone has to be on the bottom rung of the ladder. As the rung gets raised, the corporations will grease the politicians hands more readily to continue the policy of deadlock over illegal immigration or worse yet, another round of amnesty.
I believe the federal govt is being too cheap on the minimum wage i believe it should be a flat 12 dollars an hour across the board due to the high cost of fuel and consumer goods cause if you do not balance minimum wage against the high rise and costs on consumer goods and fuel then no one can afford anything not even groceries to eat on as this is a nationwide pandemic.
Our federal govt needs to see that this is the only way out is to raise minimum wage to $12/hr as this will even help with all costs all the way around such as education, transportation, food, and fuel.
you obviosly know nothing about economics
Bruce great idea, was $12 the first number that popped into your head? Under your plan you would essentially shut down every small business in my home town in a matter of two weeks. OH man, you're not even worth more of a response....
What Christy said.
Econ 101 Bruce try it some time! Ok gas here in good ole So. Cal is 4.25 per gallon for Regular. Our state min. wage is $8.00 dollars, guess what Bruce, California tried your little old theory out by raising our minimum wage can you guess what happened?
EVERYTHING COSTS MORE!!!! Bet you didn't see that coming huh?
If you demand more money in wages what do you think will happen? Where do you think the money will come from? A money fairy? NOPE nor will it come from the profit margin it will come from the increased prices of goods and services.
When you take Econ they will teach you that! Again people sorry you hate hearing this but if you get an education (which you can also get from reading! not just at a college!) you would understand this concept. Put down the TV remote and go read something of substance.
Definitely. The minimum wage should be at least $ No one can live on $
Why isn't any one else appalled by "Gladys Lopez, 51, a garment worker from Adjuntas, Puerto Rico, who makes military uniforms and has earned the federal minimum for 18 years."
An American, making military uniforms, who hasn't earned more than minium wage in 15 years? This is the best our country can do?
And I find it very, very hard to believe any company who cannot make a profit paying people peanuts.
WHAT A CROCK!!!!!!!!
Choose any inflation factor you wish and you get the answer you want. Using any standardly recognized measurement of inflation from 1968 to 2007, and the new minimum wage is close to, if not in excess of that in 1968.
In 1967/8 it was $1.00 per hour - I know as I worked for that rate. Using the CPI, GDP Deflator, the value of consumer bundle, or a rate reflecting unskilled wages, the adjusted minimum wage would be $5.96, $4.80, $6.57, or $6.15 respectively. Now I will admit the adjustment is to 2007, but I sure hope no one is going to claim that much inflation in these past 7 months.
So, let's cut the crock. Regardless of any arguement about the style/standard of living available to someone working at the minimum wage, IT IS NOT at the inflation adjusted $10.06 junk proclaimed in the article.
Please, how about some "truth in journalism" for a change?!
"Real Americans don't want their fellow citizens to suffer or go hungry, they want change........................"
Real Americans don't sit around waiting for a handout, and sobbing because the GOVERNMENT doesn't take better care of them, or feeding their already large entitlement issues. REAL AMERICANS actually make things happen for themselves.
And raising MW is ridiculous. With the wage increase the cost of living just goes up that much higher. It's pointless.
Sit around waiting for a handout???
I can only begin because it never ends....
I have been legally working since I was 16, and off the books since I was 11. I have never had anything 'handed to me', and I busted my a** for every penny I made. I have worked in all kinds of jobs, from entry level to management. I have had 2 husbands in the Army, which made it impossible for me to stay in certain jobs when it was time to transfer. I am now back in my hometown, and jobs are very difficult to come by.
Don't tell me MW is fine. I work a MW job, but many weeks I work 70 - 80 hours, sometimes more. Even with the overtime I struggle to make bills. I hate to bust your 'patriotic' bubble, but if you work double full time and still can't make the bills, MW is too low. I do not waste money. I don't eat out, I don't smoke, I don't drink alcohol. I do not have a problem with these things, but they are not necessities and I do not spend money on unnecessary things. I can tell you this... when unavoidable things like insurance, new tires, doctor visits, and medication are needed, it is even more of a struggle. I take every minute of overtime I am offered, and I do not waste my money, but I still barely make my bills, and at times things go unpaid if there is an emergency.
So don't tell me MW is fine. I don't want a handout, but when a person works as much as I do, they deserve to be paid a decent wage for their time and effort.
I am not saying I am entitiled to anything, because I work for everything I get, but MW is not enough for what they require you to do in most jobs. And as for the quality of someone's work not being worth what they are paid, that is the fault of the management for not using whatever means they have to ensure performance, up to and including termination.
The minimum wage never works. Business owners are just going to raise the cost of goods more to compensate for paying their employees more. The economy is in bad shape. Both parties aren't doing anything to fix it. We are a slave to oil. We have the technology to be completely off of oil. We could use solar, or hydrogen. However the government does not want to replace fossil fuel. That is a huge amount of tax dollars missing.
I repeat everyone will pay for the minimum wage increase. Everyone going to retail will pay more for their goods. Employers are not going to take a cut from higher labor dollars. It just isn't going to happen.
If we really want to fix this economic nightmare we really need to ditch oil, and get to technology like solar or hydrogen. The tech is there.
First of all,yes the minimium wage should go up.In fact I think the minimium wage should at least be 15 dollars per hour.I never understood why it's alright for the rich people to make a 6 figure or 7 figure wages-100,000 to 10,000,000,but it is looked upon as bad for a poor person to be making 12,000 dollars as though they don't deserve it,when in actually the poor person should be making at least 30,000 dollars per year to account for the cost of living.The CEO of a company does not deserve a million dollars per year, just as a poor person does not deserve to get 12,000 dollars per year.And don't give me that B***S***,that the CEO works for the money,no they don't-The CEO of a company does not work any harder than the poor person-IT'S ALL ABOUT GREED-THE CEO HAS THE CONNECTIONS TO AQUIRE THE MONEY-THE POOR PERSON DOES NOT HAVE THE CONNECTIONS-YOU CANT TELL ME THAT A BASEBALL PLAYER DESERVES TO MAKE 5 MILLION TO 20 MILLION PER YEAR,WHILE THE POOR PERSON ONLY DESERVES TO MAKE 12,000 PER YEAR-F*** Y**-SO YES THE MINIMIUM WAGE SHOULD GO UP-AND DONT GIVE ME THAT CRAP THAT THEY HAVE TO PASS THE COST TO THE THE CONSUMER-THEY SHOULD BE TAKING THE MONEY FROM THE CEO'S OF THE COMPANYS-THE GREEDY SOB'S-This is the one point I have contempt for the rich people are getting richer and the poor people are getting poorer
There's just no arguing with ignorance, so I won't even bother....
Exactly! The rich people whinning because they have to give up their 20% profits. They seem to always get their profit every year, regardless of how bad the economy is. Even small business owners make more than you think. If you can't pay your employees to do your *hit work for you, then you shouldn't be in business. Sell your business to someone who can.
It's called free enterprise and the profit motive.
I've seen a few comments like "I don't see why minimum wage shouldn't be 15 dollars an hour when the executives are paid so much more", and "you are lucky to never have worked a minimum wage job". Like most, these people have some confusion as to what the purpose of business is. Pay is and should be a reflection of your skills and experience. I have dealt with fast food employees and store employees whom if they were receiving minimum wage, were severely OVER paid. There is no entitlement to a wage and there shouldn't be. The other bit about being lucky is the one that always burns me. successful people are not lucky. They plan and persevere when trouble comes. Too many in this world want the pay without the work and sacrifice and I say the minimum wage for unskilled and young people should be lower, not higher. Increases in pay should be based on performance and experience, and not an entitlement.
To respond to Shane. I completely agree with you. My father always said the less you work, the more you get paid. CEOs do NOT work harder than someone down on the production line. These days, companies don't care if their employees are getting paid what they deserve. In their eyes, if you don't like it, leave. The job market is so horrible there will be someone ready and willing to fill your position. How about getting rid of some of those company vehicles? A CEO should have enough money to pay for his or her own car. As far as people working minimum wage jobs being uneducated, that may be true in a lot of cases. "Just go to college." That's easier said than done. Not everyone has rich parents that can send them to college. And if you have three kids, every penny you make at your minimum wage job goes to them. So college is completely unaffordable. This raise in minimum wage is ridiculous. It may help people a little, but it's still not enough. Every American worker should have the right to work for a living and be able to pay their bills with the check they receive at the end of the week.
The work the CEO does is done prior to getting to that position. Establishing those contacts and devoting the time necessary to advance the business to the point of profitability. As for supporting three kids on minimum wage, here's an idea....if you can't support yourself, then you probably shouldn't be breeding! Bringing more mouths to feed into an already untenable situation is selfish and stupid. Once you establish yourself and can afford to do so, then do so. It is called planning and sacrifice. I did not have rich parents. I decided to join the service. I paid for my own college. I developed skills that were in demand. I get paid a good wage. Do not blame business for poor planning by people.
"the poor person should be making at least 30,000 dollars per year to account for the cost of living."
Thus increasing the cost of living in the process, making $30,000 the equivalent of what $15,000 is today, keeping that poor person in the same predicament while dropping those those who are making $30,000 now into the same boat, highly increasing the poverty rate, requiring that they make at least $40,000 to account for the new cost of living, and on and on until everyone but the absolute wealthiest if dirt poor. This is why the ONLY way to increase the minimum wage responsibly is to do it marginally over long periods of time, raising it to go with a strong support of business growth, allowing for minimum wage to increase along with profit percentages so that business can maintain the same revenue percentages continuously so that they are not forced to increase consumer costs in the process. As businesses boost, raise minimum wage at the same rate so that their profits and revenue hold steady. They won't be making increasing profits, but they won't be losing money which would require costs inflations. This way, consumer costs can remain steady (instead of decreasing which would happen with no minimum wage increase and boosts to businesses), but the poor would see pay increases, thus increasing spending which would boost business even more which would in the long run lower consumer costs which would make the additional money be worth even more, instead of raises at the wrong time which INCREASE costs. If business growth is reducing, then no minimum wage can effectively be instigated without cost increases to match, which is the problem with the last attempted major hike. Pushing for a huge boost all at once is doomed to hurt the poor, only through support of business growth can there be effective salary increases that won't be negated by inflated costs.
Shane believe it or now most CEO's were not created specifically for the position they currently hold. They did not all come from rich families. Many of them actually worked to get where they are today.
IF you were to look at the richest people in the world I mean Billionaire level you will find that many can from humble beginnings
Carlos Slim no rich family ties
Sheldon Adelson borrowed 200 dollars to start him on his way to fortune
Do you know the difference between "rich" and the "others". Self-made rich people did not wait for the government to take care of them. They made their own opportunities.
The government should only step in to help those who served us. Not those wanting to be served.
Why raise the minimum wage? The only thing that will come of it is higher prices for the consumer that buys or uses services of minimum wage earners. Companies have their profit margins set so they'll just pass along the cost increase to the consumer. Minimum wage jobs weren't designed to be head of house hold jobs, they were started and designed to give "kids" a perspective of what the real world is like and earn some extra money in the process for crying out loud. If you want to make "real" money, get an education, trade or how about even citizenship!
Raising minimum wage just means fewer people hired in part time jobs for high schoolers and college kids. Only so many $$ to go around at small businesses and retail outlets. Our company hired 2 summer help instead of 4 this year because of IL already raising min wage.
No the minimum wage should not increase at all. This wage was originally meant for high school kids and or first jobs. People have no one to blame for staying in such a low paying job, but themselves.
ok then how about these people that have been laid off in the auto industry because of sales going down i guess its their fault??? these people have bills too and when the measly unemployment checks run out then what will they do? they will take any job they can get
Todd who people had many choices
Lets see do I take this job in the auto industry or not.
Choice number 2 - Should I continue to pursue an education or not
Choice number 3- Should I really believe this job will never be phased out ?
Choices, Choices!
NO most people take jobs when they can get them not all people have a chance to go to school and further their education
I wish I only made minimum wage, then I'd get a raise. This is just a pay cut for me, because I make a little more than minimum wage but not enough to ever go to the movies or even afford cable tv. Every time minimum wage is increased it just puts more people under the poverty level. As was said before, if minimum wage is increased, prices for goods out pace the increase by approximately 50%.
Thank you....you said it all in less than 100 words. Minimum wages means PROVERTY.
I think they should separate "min wage" into 2 categories... the "uneducated"(those w/o high school diploma/GED) and those that do. I have had times in my life where I couldn't find any jobs except min wage. (I have a college degree by the way) if you don't even try to better yourself (diploma-either way) then why should you make as much as I do. Which isn't all that much considering how much they want to pay the "highschool student" who has minimal to no responsiblities except IF you are lucky paying for there own gas in which they "ram" all over town. If you've got responsibilies thats one thing but why does the 16 year old need to make $7ish/hr? -Just my opinion
To reply to Ashley-390043:
Some high school students have responsiblities and bills to pay. I delivered newspaper starting at 11 years old and also babysat until I was 16 years old and then went to work at a "real" job. My first two jobs in high school was a fast food place, then moved on to a department store, where I stay for 6 years until the business closed. The reason why I had to work as a teenager was first to pay rent ($100) a month to live in my father's house - his reason for it was to teach me responsible and the fact that he had to pay his way through life also. Second reason, my senior year of high school, senior pictures, senior trip, senior prom, and my own car and car insurance. And this was 1986 so minimum wage in the State of New Jersey was $3.35. So, to put it nicely, I did not waste my money. I worked hard for every dollar I worked for and I appreciate that I was taught work ethic at a early age.
Just my opinion. So, to make it short some high school students deserve the pay they receive.
It sounds like you are a very enterprising individual, but let's face it: your situation is very rare. To find a family where you are required to pay rent under the age of 18 is a bit much. Additionally, the point of a minimum is to ensure people can get the bare minimum. For a kid in HS to go on her trip, go to prom, get a car, etc. is not the bare minimum. These things are, in fact, luxuries.
Why are people constantly stating the teenager have no financial responsibilities. Many have because the family can not afford to support the basic needs for survival. For intance. Fuel will cost is predicted to go to $8-$10 per gallon next year.
I sure am glad that the government has decided to bypass the free market and mandate a raise for everyone without consideration of productivity or merit at a time that we as business owners are struggling to stay in business and NOT pass along all the additional costs that we have absorbed to the consumer. Great timing! Frankly, the consumer gets what they deserve. My prices are going up and I hope that in the future the leadership of this country will see that every action has a equal and opposite reaction. More money for a workforce for no other reason than a spineless political party caving in to pressure from the other side of the isle is absolutely stupid. Small businesses employ the majority of the American workforce and no seems to care that we are on the edge of failure.
What happened to the American ideals of free markets? Ask the liberals? IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!
Minimum wage is still below poverty level. This country thinks they are doing something for us. Yea, right. This country doesn't care about us. They always have some kind of excuse. Take all the money, Bush funded this senseless war with and give that to us. Then maybe, just maybe, we could all get by. America is getting worse and worse and it's all about politics. You people can stick your politics right where the sun don't shine. You do NOTHING for the American people but you sure bend over backwards to help the illegals in this country. I can't even get help paying for my medications because my wife and I make $10.00 too much a month. Do you believe that. Up yours America!
Why do you feel the country should do something for you?
What are YOU doing for the country, besides complaining?
Perhaps if you felt more responsibility for your own well-being, and less reliant on a gov't entity to provide for you, you'd be farther ahead today.
Some president in the past said "ask not what your country can do for you, rather ask what you can do for your country" ... Today, that president wouldn't even be able to keep his job in the Democrat National Convention... that was John F. Kennedy. And, that was one of the last things that a Democrat in national office has gotten correct. I have worked minimum wage jobs, I have worked salaried jobs, and I have worked multiple jobs at the same time. But what I have NOT done is begged the government to interfere in the market, to make more people suffer so that I can either have more company in my misery, or so that I can get my portion of their redistributed wealth.
Minimum wage jobs are meant to be entry-level. If you've been working at the same job for more than 3 - 6 months, and you're still earning minimum wage, that's because you are not worth more. Instead of whining that the government needs to get you more money, how about you show up to work half an hour early? How about you pull your pants up and / or cover your cleavage? How about you learn to speak the same English that the people that sign your checks speak? (Yo, man, I doan be talkin' bout no Messicans. I'se talkin' bout da homies dat sez the manz holdin' em down, dawg.) If you want success, you need to clean up your act and claim the success. Dress for the success you want. Act as if you deserve the success you want. Be respectful of the customers, even when they're stupid and just plain wrong, because they're ultimately the people that pay you... and, finally, show some sense of propriety.
God forbid if you ever come into a situation where you may need some help and are out on the streets. I guess you would rather help the CEO that's making $2-3 million dollars a year by buying one of their useless products than to help someone who is stuggling. That's what's wrong with this place. There are people who work hard everyday to clean up your *hit, make your fast food, your freakin Levi's jeans, and clean up your trash. They deserve to live and have the basics. What is wrong with you?
I was on welfare for 5 years, working a low paying job and barely making it. Not because of choice, but because mommy and daddy didn't raise me to think about college. To them, it was an unreachable goal. The government helped me and within 2 years I am off welfare and in a very good paying job. I am very greatful for the government's help. Because of that, I am able to stimulate the economy with my pay and I've become a productive taxpayer. The more you put into it, the more you get out of it.
Like I said, I hope you never become ill, lose your house, your spouse leaves you, or you just plain lose your job in a bad economy. You may run into someone that could help, but has the same mentality as you.
I agree with you: politics is entangling this country's resources and making it harder for legal Americans to make a living (especially the immigration situation), but raising minimum wage will only make it harder for people in poverty as the cost of living is raised as well.
Raising the minimum wage is also about politics. It gets Democrats votes regardless of whether it works or not. It ensures that several key unions in this country also get significant financial help and thus help to keep a strong Democrat party base happy at the peril of everyone else. For example, many unions might have a contract with their workers that says something like: you will make, at least, twice the amount of minimum wage. So as the minimum wage goes up, so will all workers wages in unions, and will support of the Democrat party. In the end, a capitalist economy is self-adjusting and this government intervention will only delay the inevitable.
So...if a business cant afford to pay a worker they are going to haver to rasise prices or he is gong to get laid off, and who ends up paying for the Unemployment benefits? That's right you guessed it...you and I. So either way the consumer is the one getting screwed, because either we have to pay for higher priced goods or higher taxes!
Inflation is not going to stop going up so why is it the government will not raise the minimum wage to $10.50 - $12.00 an hour? Senators, Congressmen, etc. receives a higher raise in their salaries while the lower class pay more in taxes and less in their wages. $6.55 an hour cannot pay the high rents in the United States that real estate mongols are placing on working families. A family of 4 living in a two-bedroom apt. rent is no less than $1,500 a month not including the utilities and other expenses. How can the government think this will help the lower class? If raised to $10.50 - $12.00 an hour will at least give the lower class family a chance to survive. President Bush can send billions of dollars to Iraq to fight a war that we are not winning and over 4,000 men and women have lost their lives to a lie, but minimum wage is only $6.55. What is wrong with this picture? George Bush is the worst President (so was President Nixon) that the United States has ever had. Legislatures follow him blindly without questions. Gas and oil prices are not going down, but only up. Where do the lower class working family stands? Transportation fares are going up especially in NYC, our children must be fed, purchasing new clothes when they cannot fit their old ones, food prices are up especially on the dairy products, etc. Where does it ends?
If you only planned for your future to consist of a minimum wage job, you had no business having a family.
Minimum wages were never meant to fulfill the needs of a family of four...jobs that pay minimum wage are meant to introduce you to the world of working, give you experience to move up the ladder. Get a second or third job to make ends meet.
Stop blaming others (the gov't) for your lot in life....you put you where you are today, not George Bush or the legislature....do more to improve yourself....
You likely are where you deserve to be, like it or not.
I could not have said it better myself!!!!!!!!!!!
I love it when some people say! When you have hard economic times you should not have family. What a morons! In today's world it would mean that only rich folks could afford children. Many rich don't want children so it would not interfere into their fabulous life styles. This would mean near extinction of children in USA. I wonder who would pay the fat pension of those yahoos who say such a nonsense.
Why would anyone who is on minimum wage even think it is OK to stay at a minimum wage job if they have a family of four?
Would that not be enough to get you moving. Wow to think you would ok enough not to want to better your situation is shocking!
Get out there and make it happen.
pay all "tipped personnel" a living wage! Business's should hire who they want (immigrates) and pay them a living wage and as long as they are applying for citizenship fine and if not ..fire them because we all know this immigration thing is all about free or cheap labor for business. In addition these business's and their employees are PAYING TAXES!!. Look around America and see what taxes have given us when used properly. We must FUND our Treasury and not go broke however businesses want labor and everything that goes with FREE. It's a matter of LEADERSHIP which we are lacking from the White house. It's not rocket science. McCain said the reason Health Care don't work is because it cost too much!! The Hell with that.. this administration has let businesses do what they want and there we have it... the cost of living is too high Living costs to much!!!. Isn't it amazing with over 300 million people in the U.S we can't find a competitive fuel OR a product that uses half the fuel. What is that telling us? The big boys (oil) are dictating to us.
Paying people better and paying payroll taxes etc will bring us back to the future.
Thank you for reading
The minimum wage should be $10.50 - $12.00 because $6.55 an hour is not covering rent nor other expenses in a household. Why can't the Senators, Congressmen and other government dignitaries sacrifice their raises to make sure the lower class working family receive more than the minimum raises. President Bush can send billions of dollars overseas to Iraq for a war that we are losing and a country that no longer wants us there. Over 4,000 men and women have died because of a lie the President has told. He and President Nixon were the worst presidents in history. The rich keeps getting richer and the lower class gets buried in rents, food, gas and oil prices. Transportation fares are going up and how can the government feel that $6.55 will cover those fares? How stupid do they think we are? For example, a family of 4 living in a two-bedroom apt. on average pays $1,500 in rent which does not include other household expenses. Do they think this is fair? There are more homeless families living in shelters than reported to the public. Lower class working families are being evicted or living in crowded apartments with friends or family members because minimum wage is too low. At least by having $10.50 - $12.00 an hour will give lower class working families a fighting chance.
You are asking how stupid we are? Well, stupid enough to vote for the same jerks time after time. Stupid enough to believe a slick rhetoric and promises of professional political liars.
Did they have those children? NOPE. Did they say you must "Accept" this wage? NOPE
GET MOVING AND STOP WHINING!
To think they are going to as you put it "sacrifice their raises to make sure the lower class working family receive more than the minimum raises." is hilarious. Even if be some freak of nature they did agree to that exactly how much of a difference do you think it would make?
Again raise the wages, and here comes the increase in housing, food, gas, heating oil and on and on.
I agree with the small farms either dieing or dead the minimum wage wage is our only training program for the youth of this county. As a job coach for those with developmental disabilities it is just about impossible to find them employment. Youth programs are finding placements very hard. One can not blame small businesses who would you employee the grandparent or the teen? Thus said one can go to college and get a master degree not having worked a day in their lives. Government either state or fed must step in and grant employers a wage decrease for teens to save our training program and building self -esteem. self-worth and the know how to work. A very wise man told me once that an employer hires 10 employees and three do the work. Yes many are taking our good jobs overseas only to find that productivity is not there returning years later. Our schools have gotten out of teaching the Math, Reading, English, Science and teaching what Mom and Dad should be at home Drugs, Aids, Anger Management ect. Nevertheless, I hate going to the store and seeing someone buying poor food choices with food stamps and then paying cash for beer, wine and smokes. Yes it takes effort to go to college however if this old man could do it at 43 with three kids at home anyone can set their mind to it and improve. The question one should ask is what they enjoy doing.
Awesome Charles good for you!
I have to agree I see a lot of poor people make just one bad choice after another with the little cash they have. Seems like they spend it the minute it hits their pockets. Why is that?
Your concept about a wage decrease is a bit of food for thought.
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